iso14000-digest Thursday, April 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number 031
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:39:23 +0000
From: Matthias Gelber
Subject: Conference on Airports and EMS
Next week Thursday and Friday their will be a conference in Milan /
Italy which is resulting from an EU funded project "EMAS at airports".
The conference is free of charge and their are some limited places still
available. Sorry for informing you so late, but it might still be of
interest to some of you.
Airports, Development, Environmental Protection:
the environmental management systems
International Conference
Milano Malpensa Airport
2-3 April 1998
Conference Organisers:
Fondazione Eni Enrico Mattei, Milano-Italy
SEA (Milano airports managing companies), Milano-Italy
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_________________________
2 April 1998
9,30 - 10,00 Welcome, Giuseppe Bonomi, President of SEA
10,00 - 11,30 Transportation and sustainable development
· The priorities in the transport policies at European level,
Monique
Toussein, European Commission DGVII - Cristophersen Group
· Transportation and Sustainable Development, Mariarosa Vittadini,
General Director, Italian Ministry of the Environment
· Sustainable development and aviation, Callum Thomas, Manchester
Airport and Centre for sustainable aviation
11,30 - 11, 45 Coffee Break
11,45 - 12,45 The role of environmental management systems (EMS)
· The airport and the environment, Matteo Bartolomeo, Fondazione
Eni Enrico Mattei
· Environmental management systems and the airport industry, Peter
James, Sustainable Business Centre
· The European Union approach, John Faragher, European Commission
DGXI
12,45 - 14, 15 Buffet
14,15 - 16,00 Managing the environment: the role of different
actors
operating at the airport site
· The airport managing company and the problem of noise, Dario
Maffeo,
Torino Caselle Airport (SAGAT)
· The public administration, Raffaele Cattaneo, Lombardia Regional
Administration
· The airline, Dave Bluett, British Airways
· The oil companies operating at the airport site, Alberto Dettin,
DISMA
· The problem of flights paths, Umberto Corvari, ENAV
16,00 - 16,15 Coffee Break
16,15 - 17,30 Panel: Environmental technology or environmental
management systems?
· The case of Dublin, Peter Tobin, Dublin Airport
· The case of Gothenburg, Thomas Helin, Gothenburg Airport
· The case of Malpensa 2000, Roberto De Nard, Malpensa Energy
· The case of Munich, Egon Renz, Munich Airport
Chairperson: Mrs. Alice Gaustad, ACI Europe Environment Committee
3 April 1998
9,30 - 11,30 Implementing an environmental management system at
airport sites: key steps
· Environmental management systems implementation and models for
the integration of environment - quality - safety
Matthias Gelber, 14000 & ONE Solutions
· The scope of the initial review and the role of the different
actors
in the environmental management system, Davide Dal Maso and
Stefania
Borghini, Fondazione Eni Enrico Mattei
· Significance and the peculiarities of an airport site
certification,
Roberto Majocchi, TUV
· Reporting on environmental issues, Claire Williams, British
Airport
Authority
11, 30- 11,45 Coffee Break
11,45- 13,00 Panel: how to communicate to external stakeholders the
actions undertaken and the obtained results
· Claudio Mazzesi, Malpensa Airport (SEA)
· Dario Maffeo, Torino airport (SAGAT)
· Egon Renz, Munich Airport
· Peter Tobin, Dublin Airport
· Alan Melrose, Manchester Airport
· Peter James, Sustainable Business Centre
Chairperson, Matteo Bartolomeo, Fondazione Eni Enrico Mattei
13,00 - 14, 15 Buffet
14,15 - 16,30 Tour at the new airport of Malpensa 2000
For further information and booking, please contact:
Daniela Damonti
FEEM
C.so Magenta 61
20123 Milano Italy
Fax: +39252036946
Email: damonti@feem.it
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Matthias Gelber
14000 & ONE Solutions
PO BOX 1005
Stoke-on-Trent UK
ST4 2XY
Phone: +44 70000 14000
Fax: +44 70000 14001
Alternative Fax and Voicemail: +44 171 6917249
Email: mgelber@ibm.net
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:46:51 +0100
From: "Goodman, Sally"
Subject: EMS in paper & pulp sector
Dear Friends & Colleagues, I have a favour to ask.
Does anyone out there have any papers, literature or information
relating to ISO 14001 certification and/or environmental management and
its problems in the paper and pulp sector? If so, I would very much
appreciate anything you can send.
With thanks and kind regards,
Sally L Goodman
Service Responsible, Accredited Environmental Systems Certification
Section for Certification (DTP 325)
Det Norske Veritas
Tel: +47 67 57 8213
Fax: +47 67 57 9705
Email: sally.goodman@dnv.com
http://www.dnv.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 19:39:34 -0400
From: Reinaldo Ramirez
Subject: Airports, Development.....
Dear Sir:
I received the notice to late in order to assist to the Conference in
Milan, Italy.
I´m interested in the papers related with the topic: THE OIL COMPANIES
OPERATING AT THE AIRPORT SITE to be presented by Mr. Alberto Dettin,
DISMA. What is the possibility to get a copy of the above related
topic? Please advise me any payment to be done in order to get it.
What about the proceeding of the overall conference?
Regards,
Reinaldo Ramirez
Caracas, Venezuela.
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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:16:08 +0100
From: Jost.Hamschmidt@IWO.unisg.ch
Subject: EMAS Help desk
hallo iso 14000 family,
news from EMAS including the Original EMAS text are
now available online at the website below.
regards
Jost Hamschmidt
> EMAS HelpDesk Website:
> * WWW.EMAS.LU - is now live! *
> ******************************************
> The EMAS Helpdesk is pleased to announce the launch of its new website
> at
> http://WWW.EMAS.LU/
> where you can find relevant information on EMAS: official technical
> and support documents, and updated lists of registered sites and
> accredited verifiers. There is also the opportunity to send EMAS
> questions to the Helpdesk and to subscribe to the free mailing list
> service.
> ******************************************
> The EMAS Helpdesk was set up to satisfy the demand for information
> about EMAS, and is operated by the European Organisation for Testing
> and Certification (EOTC) under contract to DGXI of the European
> Commission.
> "The EMAS Helpdesk mission is to provide reliable information on the
> Community Eco-Manangement and Audit Scheme (EMAS)."
>
> Please feel free to circulate this message to your colleagues.
>
> ******************************************
> EMAS HELPDESK
> E-mail: helpdesk@emas.lu
> WebSite: http://WWW.EMAS.LU
> Fax: +32.2.511-5666 (new fax)
> Tel: +32.2.511.2589 (voice-mail)
> European Organisation for
> Testing and Certification
> EOTC, Rue d'Egmontstraat 15
> B-1000 Brussels - Belgium
> *******************************************
> EMAS HelpDesk, Brussels, 24 March 1998
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Jost Hamschmidt
University of St. Gallen
Institute for Economy and the Environment (IWOE-HSG) - Tigerbergstr. 2 -
CH-9000 St. Gallen
tel.: 0041-(0)71-224-2595 http://www.unisg.ch/~iwoe/index.html
fax: 0041-(0)71-224-2722 e-mail: jost.hamschmidt@iwo.unisg.ch
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 12:49:23 +0200
From: "Goodman, Sally"
Subject: Thanks
To all of you who responded to my recent request for information
regarding the pulp & paper industry, my grateful thanks.
With kind regards,
Sally L Goodman
Service Responsible - Accredited Environmental Systems Certification
DTP 325 Section for Certification
Det Norske Veritas
( Direct Line +47 67 57 8213
( Switchboard +47 57 67 99 00
Fax +47 57 67 97 05
* sally.goodman@dnv.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 08:48:25 -0500
From: "Newquist, Scott C, Mr, HQAFCEE"
Subject: Overseas ISO 14000 Registation
Does anyone have an knowledge of a country, as a whole, requiring that
contractors working in that country be ISO 14000 certified? In every case
that I am aware of, it has been only a the company or organizational level
that has required contractors to be ISO 14000 certified. If anyone knows of
a country mandating ISO 1400 compliance across the board I would be
interested in hearing from you. I would also be interested in any potential
rumors as to countries leaning in this direction.
Scott Newquist, P.E.
HQ AFCEE/EQP
3207 North Road, Bldg. 532
Brooks AFB TX 78235-5363
Comm: (210) 536-3517, DSN: 240, Fax: 4254
Scott.Newquist@hqafcee.brooks.af.mil
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:10:54 +0800
From: susan-hong.li@cniab.mail.abb.com
Subject: ISO14001 and ISO 9001
Hi All,
I heard that ISO9001 is the foundation when setting up ISO14001. Could you
please tell me whether I can establish ISO14001 first, and introduce the
experience? I would appreciate if you could send a few modal manual and
procedures for ISO14001 to me by e-mail. Thank you in advance.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Best Regards,
Susan
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:56:53 +0800
From: susan-hong.li@cniab.mail.abb.com
Subject: guidance
Hi,
I heard the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has recently
released Risk Assessment Guidance for Superfund: Volume I -- Human Health
Evaluation Manual. The copy of manual can be downloades from web site
http://www.epa.gov/superfund/oerr/techres/ragsd/ragsd.html. I only has
email address, and cannot visit web site. I would appreciate if you could
send it to me by email. Thank you in advance.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Best Regards,
Susan
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Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 08:45:11 +0200
From: "Goodman, Sally"
Subject: RE: ISO14001 and ISO 9001
Hello Susan,
Whilst it is true that in many companies, ISO 14001 is implemented using
the basis of an existing ISO 9001/2 management system, this is not an
essential pre-requisite. It is entirely possible to establish ISO 14001
first and, depending on the existing company culture, can sometimes be
easier than trying to fit it around an existing Quality system,
particularly if the Quality system is of the more "old fashioned"
bureaucratic variety. There is often something to be recommended for
starting with a "clean page".
With kind regards,
Sally L Goodman
Service Responsible - Accredited Environmental Systems Certification
DTP 325 Section for Certification
Det Norske Veritas
( Direct Line +47 67 57 8213
( Switchboard +47 57 67 99 00
Fax +47 57 67 97 05
* sally.goodman@dnv.com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: susan-hong.li@cniab.mail.abb.com
>[SMTP:susan-hong.li@cniab.mail.abb.com]
>Sent: Friday, April 03, 1998 3:11 AM
>To: iso14000@quality.org
>Subject: ISO14001 and ISO 9001
>
>Hi All,
>
>I heard that ISO9001 is the foundation when setting up ISO14001. Could you
>please tell me whether I can establish ISO14001 first, and introduce the
>experience? I would appreciate if you could send a few modal manual and
>procedures for ISO14001 to me by e-mail. Thank you in advance.
>
>I am looking forward to hearing from you.
>
>Best Regards,
>Susan
>
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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 20:07:07 +0100
From: "luis santos"
Subject: EMS documentation
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annyone can send me a copy of a EMS manual, ans somme environmental =
policies of ISO 14001 certified organizations.
If any member of this group have other documentation or information that =
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Lu=EDs Santos
lmartinssantos@mail.telepac.pt
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:35:51 EDT
From: Dsmithasoc
Subject: Training Seminar
The following offering may be of interest to those who are responsible for
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:09:06 -0400
From: Diana Baldi
Subject: request for agricultural info
Any information on three types of issues listed below is appreciated.
1. Local interpretations by registrars in the Mexico/Guatamala area.
Does anyone have information about current interpretations regarding the
boundary of health and safety and environmental systems? The ISO 14001
scope clearly states that for the purposes of registration,only the
environmental systems are included, even if the company has a fully
integrated health, safety and environmental management system. With the
wide definition of "environment" in the standard, it can be difficult to
know how and where to draw the lines.
An agricultural company is looking for information that would be helpful to
avoid problems with registration. An example of a "controversial" question
is employee protective clothing during application of chemicals in the
field.
2. Local technical support for safety and environmental engineering in
the Mexico/Guatamala area.
a) Suppliers for basic types of safety equipment such as particulate masks
or respirators are needed. If you would recommend someone, please let me
know how to obtain their catalogs or how to contact them.
b) Environmental engineering/consulting support is needed to assist in
identifying considerations for the citing of an airstrip for the crop
dusters.
3. Any input from other companies that have to manage and air strip and
crop dusting is requested.
Thank you.
Diana Baldi
baldifamily@compuserve.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:27:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti, CQA (System Administrator)"
Subject: Submission from ["abia" ] (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1998 17:46:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "abia"
To:
Subject: EMS in Asia
Dear list members
One of my clients, AET Ltd, who last year published the business guide
Environmental Management in Asia: A Guide to ISO14000 have recently updated
their web site. As well as providing background information on the
environmental issues and markets of Asia Pacific, the site now includes a
number of free business reports and briefing services.
For those who are interested in this subject, you can find the site at
http://www.asianenviro.com.
Regards
Philip Massey
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 98 17:06:11 -0000
From: richard@frey.demon.co.uk
Subject: re: request for agricultural info
Dear Diana,
It seems to me that the question of where health and safety ends and
where environment starts has been with us for a while, and is possibly
one of the major reasons for making the integration of the two seem
natural.
The general demarkation line I use for manufacturing industry is the
facility roof. If the impact is underneath the facility roof, affecting
employees or visitors, it is health and safety. If the impact is 'above
the roof', affecting people or things outside the site, it is environment.
The agricultural worker in the open field obviously does not have a roof,
but the principle of the site boundary could still be used. The effect
of chemicals on him is health and safety. The effect on the fish in the
river is environment.
Best wishes
Richard Frey
Frey Environmental Associates Ltd.
http://www.frey.demon.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:41:34 +0200
From: "Dawes, Simon"
Subject: RE: request for agricultural info
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Dear Diana,
Richard Frey wrote:
The general demarkation line I use for manufacturing industry is the
facility roof. If the impact is underneath the facility roof,
affecting
employees or visitors, it is health and safety. If the impact is
'above
the roof', affecting people or things outside the site, it is
environment.
The agricultural worker in the open field obviously does not have a
roof,
but the principle of the site boundary could still be used. The
effect
of chemicals on him is health and safety. The effect on the fish in
the
river is environment.
While this is one approach, you must be aware of the specific
legislative requirements in place. Within the jurisdiction of the NSW
EPA in Australia, organisations have been fined for a breach of the
Clean Waters Act for polluting self contained waters (in this case, a
dam with diesol fuel) that is wholly within the organisations own
property. To continue your crop dusting example, an offence would be
committed if there was a reasonable likelihood of the dusted pesticide
making its way into "waters". The offence is to pollute waters of any
kind - the location of the water is not relevant.
One demarcation would be to consider the why of an action - is it to
protect the health and safety of personnel OR "health and safety" of
the environment? Environmental impacts that effect people would also
be environmental management.
Best Regards
Simon Dawes
MS Coordinator
DNV Certification
Ph +61 2 9900 9537
Fx +61 2 9929 8792
Mb +61 4 1820 0513
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From: richard@frey.demon.co.uk [SMTP:richard@frey.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 1998 3:06 AM
To: ISO 14001 discussion group
Subject: re: request for agricultural info
Dear Diana,
It seems to me that the question of where health and safety ends and
where environment starts has been with us for a while, and is possibly
one of the major reasons for making the integration of the two seem
natural.
The general demarkation line I use for manufacturing industry is the
facility roof. If the impact is underneath the facility roof,
affecting
employees or visitors, it is health and safety. If the impact is
'above
the roof', affecting people or things outside the site, it is
environment.
The agricultural worker in the open field obviously does not have a
roof,
but the principle of the site boundary could still be used. The
effect
of chemicals on him is health and safety. The effect on the fish in
the
river is environment.
Best wishes
Richard Frey
Frey Environmental Associates Ltd.
http://www.frey.demon.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:45:32 -0500
From: Phil Rooney
Subject: Re: request for agricultural info
richard@frey.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> Dear Diana,
>
> It seems to me that the question of where health and safety ends and
> where environment starts has been with us for a while, and is possibly
> one of the major reasons for making the integration of the two seem
> natural.
>
> The general demarkation line I use for manufacturing industry is the
> facility roof. If the impact is underneath the facility roof, affecting
> employees or visitors, it is health and safety. If the impact is 'above
> the roof', affecting people or things outside the site, it is environment.
>
> The agricultural worker in the open field obviously does not have a roof,
> but the principle of the site boundary could still be used. The effect
> of chemicals on him is health and safety. The effect on the fish in the
> river is environment.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Richard Frey
>
> Frey Environmental Associates Ltd.
> http://www.frey.demon.co.uk
And whatever rolls off him onto the ground, whatever evaporates off him
into the air, whatever misses him entirely and pollutes or harms the
ground, the air, groundwater, living organisms around him, and
ultimately surface water (fish, plants, other humans who eat the fish or
plants and drink the water) is environmental.
Even "under the roof," unless a person can guarantee that whatever is in
the building STAYS in the building (is not carried out on shoes, boots,
clothes, hair, tools, etc.), it's all environmental. Unless, of course,
the building has ABSOLUTELY NO air or water exchange with the outside or
with other systems. Then everyone in the building has far more serious
problems than a few chemicals.
I see it as a seemless continuum. We protect the environment because
doing so protects human health and safety.
Phil Rooney
Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department
3140 "N" Street
Lincoln, NE 68510
USA
(402) 441-8644
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 12:12:35 +0300
From: Angela Boura
Subject: ISO 14000 in marble processing?
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I am seeking references, projects, reports, contacts etc. concerning
the application of ISO 14001 or EMAS to marble processing.
Any information related to marble processing and environmental issues
are welcomed!
Thank you in advance.
Angeliki Boura
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:24:32 +0200
From: "Ross Campbell"
Subject: iso14000 in South Africa
Hi
1.I would be interested to hear from other South(ern) African subscribers
to this list, partielcularly those actively involved in implementing
iso14001 in organizations, as well as iso14001 auditors and certifiers in
the region.I would like to set up an iso14001 interest group in South &
Southern Africa to stimulate mutual learning about the system between
organizations that would otherwise have little in common, as well as to
consider those social and environmental issues which make EMS in S.Africa
unique.
2. I would also like to know if there are any e-mail discussion lists for
environmental auditing in general - including environmental risk auditing,
waste & energy auditing and environmental impact assessment.
3. Does anyone know of a discussion list about cumulative effects
assessment?
Ross Campbell
Ross Campbell
rossc@hq.iscorltd.co.za
phone +27 12 307 7273
Reqired Legal Disclaimer:
The views expressed above are not necessarily those of Iscor Ltd.
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:11:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bill Casti (System Admin)"
Subject: Submission from [CHRIS KWAN ] (fwd)
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:33:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: CHRIS KWAN
To: iso14000@quality.org
Dear members,
Please feel free to distribute this and sorry for any cross-posting
l am looking for a suitable external examiner for my student short
thesis. She is doing an implementation thesis on ISO 14001 and an
examiner is sought. According to university regulations,
1) the examiner must have sufficient publication of merit
2) possess a minimum of a master degree and at least 3 years in
implementation field
3) attached to an university or an organisation within this field
4) have EMS experience
l welcome enquiries in the above as soon as possible. Their names will be
submitted to University Senate for vetting and decision. The examiner
will receive a small sum (very minimum) and a thank you note. If you know
someone other than yourself please email this to him. The examiner's
resume including publications (will full details) will be required.
Thanks in advance and regards.
Chris Kwan
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:04:39 -0400
From: Beth Graves
Subject: what to include in an EMS
I would like to pose the following question to the list.
Facility A is a manufacturing operation. There is an on-site closed
lagoon undergoing remediation.
Must the remediation site be included in Facility A's EMS? Where may a
facility draw boundaries when considering ISO 14000 certification? For
instance, can areas of a plant be segregated and certified selectively?
Beth Graves
NC Div. of Pollution Prevention and Environ. Assis. (DPPEA)
919-715-6506
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:55:53 -0400
From: "Connie G. Ritzert"
Subject: RE: what to include in an EMS
Beth:
You may get many different opinions on your EMS scope question. It will be
interesting to see how wide a spread there is in interpreting this point.
My Comments: An ISO 14001 EMS applies to an ORGANIZATION not to a
physical facility. You may identify the boundaries of the organization for
which the EMS will function in any way that makes sense for your situation,
but once you define that organization, you must apply the EMS to those
activities, products , and services that belong to that organization. The
organizational boundaries (scope) should be consistent with the functional
organizational units for other purposes, e.g., the way in which it does
business. The organization should not be defined in some artificial
manner to avoid including significant environmental aspects. Other than
those restrictions, ISO 14001 is quite flexible on the subject. Note the
ISO 14001 definition of "organization":
"company, corporation, firm, enterprise, authority or institution, or part
or combination thereof, whether incorporated or not, public or private,
that has its own functions and administration
Note - For organizations with more than one operating unit, a single
operating unit may be defined as an organization. "
To answer your question regarding "Facility A", you must look at the
organizational structure. Once you have defined the organizational unit to
which you will apply ISO 14001, the physical boundaries will be those
under the management of that organizational unit.
Hope this helps.
Connie G. Ritzert critzert@fyi.net
Meredith-EMC environmental management consulting
- -----Original Message-----
From: Beth Graves [SMTP:Beth_Graves@p2pays.org]
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 4:05 PM
To: 'iso14000@quality.org'
Cc: Susan Clarke
Subject: what to include in an EMS
I would like to pose the following question to the list.
Facility A is a manufacturing operation. There is an on-site closed
lagoon undergoing remediation.
Must the remediation site be included in Facility A's EMS? Where may a
facility draw boundaries when considering ISO 14000 certification? For
instance, can areas of a plant be segregated and certified selectively?
Beth Graves
NC Div. of Pollution Prevention and Environ. Assis. (DPPEA)
919-715-6506
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Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:11:43 -0400
From: HY BRAVERMAN
Subject: Re: what to include in an EMS
Beth Graves:
Since an environmental management system is enterprise wide, an
integrated information management strategy will also be required.
Most organization today, lack the necessary set of
environmental/information tools to obtain the results and rewards of an
Environmental Management System. Your firms information manager should
become involved and prepared to mobilize resources, to plan, design and
implement an environmental management information architecture. That
individual and team should be prepared to address the enterprises IT/EMS
strategy, the politics, the culture, behavior and deply resources to
make an EMS successful. Remember, an EMS is for the entire enterprise
not just a few locations.
Ask your firms IT management about his/hers environmental
management/information management objectives, or if they have any at
all.
An environmental management system creates diverse types of data from
many sources. How will that data be interpreted? Used? Integrated with
business strategies? Who else, what depertments, divisions, subsidiaries
can benefit?
How will the IT organization address the evolutionary changes in
technology? Every environmental point is a sources and destination of
information technology and data streams. How is your IT organization
going to address TECHNOLOGY and its role in an EMS? What is the culture
of the organization? What is the climate: REACTIVE or PROACTIVE
(computers, networks, intelligent instruments, information appliances,
JAVA, ACTIVEX, etc.)
EMS with an integrated information strategy will provides critical
organizational insights and a forward looking business strategy.
I've given you more than you asked, but in my opinion it's a critical
component that is easily overlooked or ignored.
I hope this helps you.
Hy Braverman
BRAVERMAN STRATEGIES -EnviroInformatics Consulting
email: braveman@ziplink.net
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