iso14000-digest Monday, March 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 048
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:37:41 -0500
From: HY BRAVERMAN
Subject: Re: Software for Life Cycle Assessment
Dear Lynda M. Wiseman and everyone;
Great idea about EHSSDG, however, they will no longer be affilliated
with ASTM as of June 1, 1999. They are seeking affilliation with other
organizations. From my view point they are looking for partners in their
quest to provide sound and logical approaches to environmental based
software. They are looking for ideas and suggestion on how to move
ahead. It's a great group(EHSSDG).
Hy Braverman - former member
> Hi Everyone --
>
> You all may be interested in joining the Environmental Health & Safety
> Software Development Group (EHSSDG) -- a forum for EH&S professionals, IT
> experts, and 3rd. party integrators or consultants to discuss these and
> other issues of concern. We also host workshops & comparative product
> demonstrations. Ps. check out our website www.astm.org/COMMIT/ehssdg and
> feel free to contact any of us on the steering committee for more info or to
> add this topic to the agenda for an upcoming meeting!
>
> Lynda Wiseman, Principal
> The Carpenter Group
> info@carpentergrp.com
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:18:52 -0500
From: "Lynda M. Wiseman"
Subject: Re: Software for Life Cycle Assessment
Hy -- I'm sorry you're a former member & I hope you'll rejoin. Yes, it's
true we're leaving our affiliation with ASTM (on to bigger & better which
can not be discussed here!) but they continue to host our website, that's
where you can get the history & our functional requirements documents, and
where you'll hear about the changes ahead. Stay tuned!!
Lynda Wiseman
info@carpentergrp.com
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:56:42 -0600
From: Suzanne Bell
Subject: Behavioral Safety Now Conference
A sign up mail list has been added to the Behavioral Safety Now
Conference Web Site. Interested participants are invited to join in
order to receive email updates and announcements on the conference.
If you are interested in receiving these updates, please visit the
conference website at http://www.hsegroup.com/bsn/bsn99.htm
and enter your email at the Join List area.
The Call for Papers is online as well, for those who wish to participate.
Thanks,
Suzanne Bell
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:01:28 -0800
From: "Markku 'Mark' J. Saarelainen"
Subject: Quality Systems Behavior Newsletter - Republication
Due to the fact that ISO 9000 and ISO 14000 are so similar to each other, I
thought that this message is very relevant to this list.
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All,
the publication of the Quality Systems Behavior Newsletter was temporarily
stopped in 1998, but I have decided to restart publishing this
non-commercial and complimentary monthly newsletter.
For those, who were not in the distribution list earlier, the objective of
this newsletter is to address and discuss various issues of quality systems
and their development. The newsletter does not necessarily only focus on
ISO 9000 and other popular standards, but discusses also many
organizational, cultural and behavioral aspects of quality systems.
Occasionally, for the benefit of all QSBN receivers, specific surveys are
emailed to the distribution list for the purposes of evaluating some key
matters and providing some specific guidance in quality systems, their
development, implementation and maintenance.
If you like to subscribe to this complimentary and non-commercial
newsletter, QSBN, please, email me your blank message with the following
subject line: "Subscription to QSBN".
My Best Regards,
Mark
P.S. The listing of some Quality System Behavior Newsletters (QSBNs):
QSBN-3-1994, The State of the ISO 9000 Series
QSBN-4-1994, Organizational Behavior and the ISO 9000 Quality System
QSBN-5-1994, Quality System - Communication - Leadership
QSBN-6-1994, Product Policy, Quality and Standards
QSBN-7-1994, Simulation and Quality Systems
QSBN-11-1994, Quality System Documentation
QSBN-12-1994, Quality System Reviews
QSBN-1-1995, Quality System Development and Continuous Improvement
QSBN-2-1995, Quality Auditors and Interpretations
QSBN-3-1995, Quality Systems - Past, Present and Future
QSBN-4-1995, Quality System Implementation & Project Management
QSBN-5-1995, Customer Satisfaction, Product Development and Quality System
QSBN-6-1995, Quality System Documentation - Legal and Ethical Requirements
QSBN-7-1995, Quality System Vocabulary - Terms and Definitions
QSBN-8-1995, Quality Systems, Managerial Involvement and Organizational
Behavior
QSBN-9-1995, Quality Planning, Quality Objectives and Organizational Strategy
QSBN-10-1995, Quality System Development, Organizational Behavior and
Management Techniques
QSBN-11-1995, Quality Process Framework
QSBN-12-1995, Dispositions of Nonconforming Products - Corrective and
Preventive Actions
QSBN-1-1996, Correct ISO 9000 Interpretations ? - Are there any ?
QSBN-2-1996, ISO 9000 Quality System and Product Liability
QSBN-3-1996, Have we achieved the vision yet ? (The State of the ISO 9000
Series)
QSBN-4-1996, Quality System and Organizational Risk Management
QSBN-5-1996, Early Warnings, Preventive Actions and Follow-up
QSBN-7-1996, Training and Quality System
QSBN-8-1996, Technological Leadership and Quality Systems
QSBN-9-1996, Cultural Aspects of Quality Systems
QSBN-10-1996, Organizational Politics, Power and Quality System Development
QSBN-11-1996, Quality System Rewards - Are your quality system developers
rewarded adequately?
QSBN-12-1996, Integrating Quality and Environmental Management Systems into
the International Strategic Formulation
QSBN-1-1997, What can you do after you have achieved your quality system
certification?
QSBN-2-1997, Implementing Quality Management Practices in Research Projects
QSBN-3-1997, The 3rd Year Anniversary of the QSBN
QSBN-4-1997, The Use of Personality and Cultural Analysis to implement and
maintain Quality Management Systems
QSBN-5-1997, The Importance of Communication and Training Systems during
the Development and Implementation of Quality Systems
QSBN-6-1997, The Role of High Quality Information in Decision Making
Processes - What Are Organizational Methods to Ensure High Quality
Information for Various Organizational and Quality Related Decisions?
QSBN-7-1997, Transforming Our Existing Quality Systems to the 21st
Century's Electronic Commerce
QSBN-8-1997, ISO 9000 Momentum and Development Practices
QSBN-9-1997, What are barriers that may hamper our quality system
development efforts? Can we eliminate or minimize these barriers to
optimize our development efforts?
QSBN-10,1997, Quality Professionals, Organizational Development and
Information Infrastructures
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Markku 'Mark' J. Saarelainen
Email: waeg@ix.netcom.com
DISCLAIMER:
No thought written in this message is a statement
of any organization by which I am employed or for
which I work.
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 09:05:40 -0400
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: audit sheets
Good morning listers,
it has been a long time without knowing something about this list, it
is still alive? I hope so, really because the topic is very
interesting for me and this list has been very useful for me
last year.
I am working on an theoretical EMS and it it time for built the
audit system. Can any of you send me a general ISO 14000 audit sheet
(if it is possible) or any other you may have? I need to have as much
examples of audit sheets as possible to make me able to develop a
good audit system.
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
**************************************************
Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:14:18 -0500
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Health & Safety in ISO 14001?
Hello,
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has included Health &
Safety in their process of developing a management system being
certified to ISO 14001 (e.g., what issues you ran into, problems,
benefits, recommendations, etc.).
Thanks in advance
Mike Chambers
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 21:56:34 MYT
From: "Nik Zafri Abdul Majid"
Subject: Re: Health & Safety in ISO 14001?
Mike
It would help if you provide information on :-
1) What is the nature of industry we are dealing with? e.g.
Petrochemical, Construction, Manufacturing involving chemicals, etc.
etc.
Basically, Health and Safety System has been known to be part and parcel
of EMS. In fact, they are complementary.
Regards
Nik Zafri bin Abdul Majid
irca,eara,miqm,miqa,Fellow of PendidikNet Malaysia
www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Bureau/3313/nikzafri.html
- ----Original Message Follows----
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 08:14:18 -0500
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Health & Safety in ISO 14001?
To: iso14000@quality.org
Hello,
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has included Health &
Safety in their process of developing a management system being
certified to ISO 14001 (e.g., what issues you ran into, problems,
benefits, recommendations, etc.).
Thanks in advance
Mike Chambers
______________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 17:02:41 +0100
From: "Vianna, Sidney"
Subject: RE: Health & Safety in ISO 14001?
For information to the subscribers of this list, DNV's mission is to
safeguard life, property and the environment. We foresee that many
companies, around the world will soon start to realize the advantages
of integrating management systems, such as quality, environmental and
occupational health and safety. To that effect, DNV has developed and
released a standard for OHSMS.
OHSMS has been developed by DNV to define general principles and
auditable requirements of sound management systems within Occupational
Health and Safety (OHS). The standard offers companies the possibility
of building up a management system meeting well-defined requirements.
The principles of OHSMS are very similar to those of recognised
Environmental and Quality management systems, and it is expected that
many companies will integrate these management systems in the future.
To assist this integration, the structure of OHSMS is similar to ISO
14001 on Environmental management systems and is compatible with ISO
9000 series. For companies already running Environmental / Quality
management systems it will be quite simple to add the OHS requirements
to their existing system.
The OHSMS standard includes the principles laid down in BS8800 (Guide
to Occupational Health & Safety Management Systems).
As with any other important activity of the company, systematic and
structured management activities are the best way to ensure genuine
and effective commitment with regard Health and Safety in the
workplace.
The overall objective for OHSMS is to prevent and control workplace
hazards and ensure an ongoing improvement process to reduce hazards.
The success of an OHSMS depends on commitment from all levels and
functions of the company, especially from top management. The system
should include a broad range of management activities and, amongst
other things, be based on the following:
· An OHS policy of the company
· Identified OHS risks and related legal requirements
· Objectives, targets and programmes to ensure continual OHS
improvement
· Management activities for control of OHS risks
· Checking OHS and system performance
· Review, evaluation and improvement of the system
The benefits of a systematic Occupational Health and Safety Management
System (OHSMS):
· Reducing the number of personnel injuries through prevention and
control of workplace hazards
· Reducing the risk of major accidents
· Ensuring a well qualified and enthusiastic workforce by fulfilment
of their increasing expectations
· Serving the possibility of an integrated management system including
quality, environment, health and safety.
· Ensuring that appropriate legislation is addressed and acted upon
· Meeting increased public interest in OHS
Thanks and Regards,
Sidney Vianna
District Manager, DNV Certification
Long Beach, California
562/435-1908
Sidney.Vianna@dnv.com
www.dnvcert.com
- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com
[SMTP:Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:14 AM
To: iso14000@quality.org
Subject: Health & Safety in ISO 14001?
Hello,
I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has included Health &
Safety in their process of developing a management system being
certified to ISO 14001 (e.g., what issues you ran into, problems,
benefits, recommendations, etc.).
Thanks in advance
Mike Chambers
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:09:37 +0100
From: Agnieszka Lopata
Subject: First time.
Hallo Everybody!
I am Ph.D. student at the Mining and Metallurgy University in Krakow,
Poland.
I am very interested in Environmental Management Systems. I would like
to write my doctor thesis in this topic.
In Poland this subject is not very popular, yet. That's why I am asking
you about sending me the topics of the master and doctor (better) thesis
concerned ISO 14000 that have been written or being written.
Angieszka Lopata
- --
M. T. Sc. Agnieszka Lopata
Faculty of Mining Surveying
and Environmental Engineering,
University of Mining and Metallurgy
Al. Mickiewicza 30/ C-4, 30-059 Krakow, Poland
Tel. (+48 12) 617 22 66, 617 39 31
Fax (+48 12) 633 07 17
e-mail: alopata@uci.agh.edu.pl
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:40:55 -0500
From: HY BRAVERMAN
Subject: Re: First time.
Daer Agnieszka Lopata:
Excellent!
In my opinion, an Environmental Management system is a Knowledge based
process. It integrates organizational information with value, context,
that can provide you with the intuition to recognize patterns of
meaning. Information evolves, its organic, and complex. It therefore
requires a structure that allows its flow throughout an organization.
It requires an information architecture to be flexible and holistic that
balance the human process needs with technical issues. The additional
focus should be on trust, mutual understanding, shared values aimed at
increased collaboration and innovation.
The mechanics of the Environmental management system meaqsures the feeds
and speeds of machines, the inflows and out flows, the rules,
regulations. It is the knowledge and committment that will decide if
the EMS will succeed or fail.
Start with the end in mind, it will lead you to the begining.
Hy Braverman
>
> Hallo Everybody!
>
> I am Ph.D. student at the Mining and Metallurgy University in Krakow,
> Poland.
> I am very interested in Environmental Management Systems. I would like
> to write my doctor thesis in this topic.
> In Poland this subject is not very popular, yet. That's why I am asking
> you about sending me the topics of the master and doctor (better) thesis
> concerned ISO 14000 that have been written or being written.
>
> Angieszka Lopata
>
> --
> M. T. Sc. Agnieszka Lopata
> Faculty of Mining Surveying
> and Environmental Engineering,
> University of Mining and Metallurgy
> Al. Mickiewicza 30/ C-4, 30-059 Krakow, Poland
> Tel. (+48 12) 617 22 66, 617 39 31
> Fax (+48 12) 633 07 17
> e-mail: alopata@uci.agh.edu.pl
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:53:16 -0400
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Re: First time.
Good Morning Mr. Braverman,
I saw your comments many time on this list and I think they are very
useful and clear for everybody. I would like to know if you have some
EMS audit sheets. I am doing a theoretical EMS and I need to develop
the auditing system. I don't know really if it will be a kind of yes
or no sheet or if it will be another thing. I don't have any
experience in this field, I only have my criteria about what EMS
means for me and what I am expecting for a company ISO 14000
certified. I would't like to have a yes or no sheet, I really belive
in "good environmental performace" when I talk about ISO 14000.
I hope that you can help me.
Sincerely,
**************************************************
Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:58:24 -0400
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: books references
hello listers, I am looking for books related with ISO 14000
implementation and audit. I have the following :
Iso 14001 Implementation Manual by Gayle Woodside, Patrick
Aurrichio, Jeanne Yturri
The Iso 14000 Ems Audit Handbook by Gregory P. Johnson
Can you give me some references of these books?
If you have a better suggestion, could you please let me know?
Thank you in advance
**************************************************
Macarena Ortega
e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
*************************************************
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 06:29:11 -0500
From: HY BRAVERMAN
Subject: Re: First time.
Mr. Macarena Ortega:
I'm more a "computer person" with ISO14k, environmental and public
health and education background. I'm more than happy to share ideas and
concepts. If you can use them great, I suggest that you develop
questions that give you specific answers. The basic, "WHO,WHAT, WHERE,
WHEN, HOW MUCH, HOW OFTEN, FROM WHERE...." questions will get you what
you need.
regards.............hy
>
> Good Morning Mr. Braverman,
>
> I saw your comments many time on this list and I think they are very
> useful and clear for everybody. I would like to know if you have some
> EMS audit sheets. I am doing a theoretical EMS and I need to develop
> the auditing system. I don't know really if it will be a kind of yes
> or no sheet or if it will be another thing. I don't have any
> experience in this field, I only have my criteria about what EMS
> means for me and what I am expecting for a company ISO 14000
> certified. I would't like to have a yes or no sheet, I really belive
> in "good environmental performace" when I talk about ISO 14000.
>
> I hope that you can help me.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> **************************************************
> Macarena Ortega
> e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
> *************************************************
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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1990 00:46:07 -0200
From: Aurea
Subject: Doctoral thesis on EMS
Dear Agnieszka,
I'm a doctoral student from Brazil and I'm developing my thesis on the
EMS/Forest Certification in the brazilian companies. I know some master
studies developed here about ISO 14000. One of then is a interesting study
based on case studies in three companies of pulp and paper, where the
author proposed a new methodological structure for the environmental aspect
assesment.
In my thesis, I'll study the implementation of ISO 14000 and FSC in forest
companies and their results on the environmental performance of the
brazilian forest sector.
Aurea Brandi Nardelli
nardelli@alunos.ufv.br
Forestry Department - University of Viçosa - Brazil
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:05:21 -0500
From: "Lisa F. Wilk"
Subject: Re: books references
The ISO14000 Info Center web site lists books and other publications
pertaining to ISO14001 implementation and audits.
The main page for this site is http://www.iso14000.com
The page listing publications is http://www.iso14000.com/publications.html
Many of the listings have links to additional descriptive information about
the books/publications (some have table of contents).
You may also find other useful information pertaining implementation &
audits from some of the links on the main page at http://www.iso14000.com/
One book that I personally found helpful is "Implementing ISO14000: A
Practical, Comprehensive Guide to the ISO 14000 Environmental Management
Standards" by Tom Tibor & Ira Feldman (published by Irwin Publishers).
Good Luck!
- --Lisa Wilk
Email: lwilk@capaccio.com
At 11:58 AM 2/23/99 -0400, Macarena Ortega wrote:
>hello listers, I am looking for books related with ISO 14000
>implementation and audit. I have the following :
>
>Iso 14001 Implementation Manual by Gayle Woodside, Patrick
>Aurrichio, Jeanne Yturri
>
>The Iso 14000 Ems Audit Handbook by Gregory P. Johnson
>
>Can you give me some references of these books?
>If you have a better suggestion, could you please let me know?
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>
>**************************************************
>Macarena Ortega
>e-mail: mortega@fundch.cl
>*************************************************
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:47:59 +0100
From: Agnieszka Lopata
Subject: Re: Doctoral thesis on EMS
Dear Aurea!
Thank you for your response. Your information sounds very interesting to
me.It is what I would like to do in my thesis!
Is there any opportunity to read the doctoral study you write about?
Maybe it is possible to contact with author or send me this publication.
I would be very grateful for any help.
> In my thesis, I'll study the implementation of ISO 14000 and FSC in forest
> companies and their results on the environmental performance of the
> brazilian forest sector.
The forest certification is very popular in Poland. A lot of polish wood
is exported to west european countries.
I think, it is very important to protect forests everywhere. Everybody
heard about deforestation in Brasil and its results. That's why I cross
fingers for your work!
Best regards and wishes
Agnieszka Lopata
- --
M. T. Sc. Agnieszka Lopata
Faculty of Mining Surveying
and Environmental Engineering,
University of Mining and Metallurgy
Al. Mickiewicza 30/ C-4, 30-059 Krakow, Poland
Tel. (+48 12) 617 22 66, 617 39 31
Fax (+48 12) 633 07 17
e-mail: alopata@uci.agh.edu.pl
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:59:51 +0100
From: "Reed, Paul"
Subject: RE: First time.
Angieszka,
I can let you have a copy of my masters thesis if you want? "Environmental
Management Systems, ISO 14001 and Regulatory Opportunities". The work looks
at the Australian mining and petroleum sectors.
Paul A. Reed
Environmental Advisor
RC Consultants as
Norway
Tel: (47) 51 63 89 19 Fax: (47) 51 63 89 22
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Agnieszka Lopata [SMTP:alopata@uci.agh.edu.pl]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:10 AM
> To: iso14000@quality.org
> Subject: First time.
>
> Hallo Everybody!
>
> I am Ph.D. student at the Mining and Metallurgy University in Krakow,
> Poland.
> I am very interested in Environmental Management Systems. I would like
> to write my doctor thesis in this topic.
> In Poland this subject is not very popular, yet. That's why I am asking
> you about sending me the topics of the master and doctor (better) thesis
> concerned ISO 14000 that have been written or being written.
>
> Angieszka Lopata
>
> --
> M. T. Sc. Agnieszka Lopata
> Faculty of Mining Surveying
> and Environmental Engineering,
> University of Mining and Metallurgy
> Al. Mickiewicza 30/ C-4, 30-059 Krakow, Poland
> Tel. (+48 12) 617 22 66, 617 39 31
> Fax (+48 12) 633 07 17
> e-mail: alopata@uci.agh.edu.pl
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 08:56:40 -0500
From: "David L. Turner"
Subject: Re: books references
The text:
"Environmental Mangements Systems: An Implementation Guide
for Small & Medium -Sized Organization " can be downloaded
from the site:
http://www.epa.gov/owmitnet/wm046200.htm#guide
It's big and a pdf file, but free and good at bringing the
ideas to you in simple format. Lots of checklists, sample
policies, etc. and summaries.
I've found Lee Kuhre's books "ISO 14001 Certification-
Environmental Management Systems" and "ISO 14010s
Environmental Auditing" helpful also.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Unhappy Macnam! Unhappy Macnam!
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:02:22 -0400
From: "Macarena Ortega"
Subject: Re: books references
Thank you David and to all of you who asnwered me about
book references.
Sincerely,
Macarena Ortega
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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:40:47 -0500
From: Susan Graff
Subject: Re: books references
>Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 11:40:02 -0500
>To: "David L. Turner"
>From: Susan Graff
>Subject: Re: books references
>In-Reply-To: <317BA3443CB@ysi.com>
>References: <3.0.3.32.19990224200521.03a6b304@linux.capaccio.com>
<1530E3F651E@funchi.fundch.cl>
>
>Thanks, David, for the info. Didn't know this was available on the web.
I've found the guide very practical, and useful for larger companies as
well. I've had excellent results tailoring the checklists and matrices to
individual companies - good templates can greatly streamline EMS
implementation.
>
>After a review of about 12 different software tools, I also found Reality
Interactive's Internal Auditor software useful for conducting
audits..again, some useful checklists and planning tools.
>
>Susan Graff
>Environmental Resource Services, Inc.
>http:\\www.envsource.com
>
>At 08:56 AM 2/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>The text:
>>
>>"Environmental Mangements Systems: An Implementation Guide
>>for Small & Medium -Sized Organization " can be downloaded
>>from the site:
>>
>>http://www.epa.gov/owmitnet/wm046200.htm#guide
>>
>>It's big and a pdf file, but free and good at bringing the
>>ideas to you in simple format. Lots of checklists, sample
>>policies, etc. and summaries.
>>
>>I've found Lee Kuhre's books "ISO 14001 Certification-
>>Environmental Management Systems" and "ISO 14010s
>>Environmental Auditing" helpful also.
>>
>>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>Unhappy Macnam! Unhappy Macnam!
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>David Turner
>>YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
>>1725 Brannum Lane
>>Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
>>Email: DTurner@YSI.com
>>Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
>>Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
>>
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:09:05 -0500
From: Beth Graves
Subject: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
Forwarded from one of my co-workers. The question arose as to whether to
score for significance before or after taking into consideration control
devices. Thanks for your help.
Beth Graves
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Newman
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 10:56 AM
> To: Beth Graves
> Subject: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Our Division is presently working with a company pursuing ISO 14001
> certification here in NC. They have reached the ranking process and had
> some questions on how to consider control devices for aspects / impacts
> ranking. When ranking impacts, do most people consider the current
> control devices or do people exclude them so as to get a true potential
> impact? Are there advantages to either method? Thanks in advance. Greg
>
> Greg Newman
> NC Div. of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance
> PO Box 29569
> Raleigh NC 27626-9569
> Ph: (919) 715-6515 Fax: (919) 715-6794
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:53:02 -0800
From: "Robert B. Pojasek"
Subject: Re: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
Pollution control devices (air and wastewater treatment) are clearly
environmental aspects themselves and not mitigating measures on other
discharges. When they break down and when they operate, they cause
environmental impacts (U.S. TRI listing includes water and air discharges
on the other side of a permitted pollution control device). Many of these
devices have residues that require land disposal or further treatment.
These are further environmental impacts. The prevention of pollution (at
the source) is the only way to avoid or even remove aspects (and impacts)
from ISO coverage. Most companies red line their pollution control devices
in their preventitive maintenance program as critical pieces of equipment.
They are unit processes and have their own inputs and outputs. They can
also be very inefficient operations - using a clean medium to remove a
contaminant (pollutant) and the entire mass is discarded - clean and
contaminant. There may be filters and other items that are discarded as well.
At 11:09 AM 3/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Forwarded from one of my co-workers. The question arose as to whether to
>score for significance before or after taking into consideration control
>devices. Thanks for your help.
>
>Beth Graves
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Newman
>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 10:56 AM
>> To: Beth Graves
>> Subject: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Our Division is presently working with a company pursuing ISO 14001
>> certification here in NC. They have reached the ranking process and had
>> some questions on how to consider control devices for aspects / impacts
>> ranking. When ranking impacts, do most people consider the current
>> control devices or do people exclude them so as to get a true potential
>> impact? Are there advantages to either method? Thanks in advance. Greg
>>
>> Greg Newman
>> NC Div. of Pollution Prevention & Environmental Assistance
>> PO Box 29569
>> Raleigh NC 27626-9569
>> Ph: (919) 715-6515 Fax: (919) 715-6794
>
Bob
Dr. Robert B. Pojasek
Pojasek & Associates
P.O. Box 1333
E. Arlington, MA 02474-0071
(781) 641-2422
(617) 788-0288 (FAX)
http://www.PollutionPrevention.com
rpojasek@PollutionPrevention.com
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:11:21 -0500
From: "Gehrke, Rick"
Subject: RE: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
Forwarded from one of my co-workers. The question arose as to
whether to
score for significance before or after taking into consideration control
devices. Thanks for your help.
The best aspect identification and rating procedures I've seen were those
where the aspects were evaluated for potential significant environmental
impact before application of control devices. The control devices were used
as a factor in determining which aspects the organization "can control and
over which it can be expected to have an influence", but not for determining
which aspects have or can have significant impacts on the environment.
Naturally, the control devices should be examined for potential
environmental impact, following the same procedures used to evaluate other
aspects of the organization. Pollution control devices ARE mitigating
measures on other discharges. Take an electrostatic precipitator on a coal
fired electric power plant, for example. Basically, you're taking an air
emission (fly ash) and turning it into a solid waste, using some electricity
in the process. While it does create another waste stream, it's less
harmful than the original one.
To answer that forwarded question, I'd go back to the standard and look at
element 4.3.1. The organization is required to identify the environmental
aspects of its activities, products or services that 1) it can control and
over which it can be expected to have an influence (these are really both
the same thing) and 2) determine those which have or can have significant
impacts on the environment. Items 1 and 2 are two entirely different
things, and need to be looked at separately.
Watch out for that word "significance", too. The procedures set up to
satisfy the requirements of element 4.3.1 can generate a scoring of relative
"significance" of environmental aspects for management prioritization, but
sometimes this causes confusion on what aspects have or can have significant
environmental impact. For example, an organization decides that an aspect
has or can have a significant environmental impact based on some algorithm
which incorporates frequency, severity, and distance. However, because
adding control technology is beyond the organization's financial capability,
it determines, by some other algorithm, that it cannot control or be
expected to influence that aspect. The two scores are fed into yet another
algorithm used to prioritize the aspects, say for development of objectives
and targets, and out pops a relatively low "significance" score.
Trouble can arise when an organization decides that, because it is already
controlling some aspect to satisfy a regulatory requirement that sets an
emission limit, the aspect can not have a significant environmental impact.
You could systematically exclude every environmental aspect at a facility
from the EMS with that approach.
Rick Gehrke
Compliance Manager
Synair Corporation
www.synair.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 15:53:03 -0800
From: "Robert B. Pojasek"
Subject: RE: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
Doesn't the company have CONTROL and be expected to have an influence over
the process BEFORE the pollution control device? If this is so, is the
pollution control device just another unit operation up stream of the
process itself?
At 02:11 PM 3/1/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Forwarded from one of my co-workers. The question arose as to
>whether to
>score for significance before or after taking into consideration control
>devices. Thanks for your help.
>
>The best aspect identification and rating procedures I've seen were those
>where the aspects were evaluated for potential significant environmental
>impact before application of control devices. The control devices were used
>as a factor in determining which aspects the organization "can control and
>over which it can be expected to have an influence", but not for determining
>which aspects have or can have significant impacts on the environment.
>
>Naturally, the control devices should be examined for potential
>environmental impact, following the same procedures used to evaluate other
>aspects of the organization. Pollution control devices ARE mitigating
>measures on other discharges. Take an electrostatic precipitator on a coal
>fired electric power plant, for example. Basically, you're taking an air
>emission (fly ash) and turning it into a solid waste, using some electricity
>in the process. While it does create another waste stream, it's less
>harmful than the original one.
>
>To answer that forwarded question, I'd go back to the standard and look at
>element 4.3.1. The organization is required to identify the environmental
>aspects of its activities, products or services that 1) it can control and
>over which it can be expected to have an influence (these are really both
>the same thing) and 2) determine those which have or can have significant
>impacts on the environment. Items 1 and 2 are two entirely different
>things, and need to be looked at separately.
>
>Watch out for that word "significance", too. The procedures set up to
>satisfy the requirements of element 4.3.1 can generate a scoring of relative
>"significance" of environmental aspects for management prioritization, but
>sometimes this causes confusion on what aspects have or can have significant
>environmental impact. For example, an organization decides that an aspect
>has or can have a significant environmental impact based on some algorithm
>which incorporates frequency, severity, and distance. However, because
>adding control technology is beyond the organization's financial capability,
>it determines, by some other algorithm, that it cannot control or be
>expected to influence that aspect. The two scores are fed into yet another
>algorithm used to prioritize the aspects, say for development of objectives
>and targets, and out pops a relatively low "significance" score.
>
>Trouble can arise when an organization decides that, because it is already
>controlling some aspect to satisfy a regulatory requirement that sets an
>emission limit, the aspect can not have a significant environmental impact.
>You could systematically exclude every environmental aspect at a facility
>from the EMS with that approach.
>
>Rick Gehrke
>Compliance Manager
>Synair Corporation
>www.synair.com
>
Bob
Dr. Robert B. Pojasek
Pojasek & Associates
P.O. Box 1333
E. Arlington, MA 02474-0071
(781) 641-2422
(617) 788-0288 (FAX)
http://www.PollutionPrevention.com
rpojasek@PollutionPrevention.com
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:07:08 -0800
From: "M. J. Saarelainen"
Subject: ISO 14000 Report : ISO 14000 Standards in the Semiconductor Industry
Hi All,
I have added my ISO 14000 report: ISO 14000 Standards in the Semiconductor
Industry, 1996
at http://pweb.netcom.com/~waeg/replink.htm
This report was written almost three years ago and there have been some
changes since this report was written. While reading the report, if you
identify any significant changes, please email me your comments and feedback
- - I would appreciate this very much.
My Best Regards,
Mark
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M. 'Mark' J. Saarelainen
P.O. Box 1672
Roswell, GA 30077
Email: waeg@ix.netcom.com
Home page: http://pweb.netcom.com/~waeg/home.htm
DISCLAIMER:
No thought written in this message is a statement
of any organization by which I am employed or for
which I work.
" ... nothing is more certain than change !"
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:46:32 -0500
From: "Gehrke, Rick"
Subject: RE: Aspect / Impacts and Controls
Doesn't the company have CONTROL and be expected to have an influence
over
the process BEFORE the pollution control device? If this is so, is the
pollution control device just another unit operation up stream of the
process itself?
It would depend on the process in question. In the power plant example I
used, the company could have influence both before AND after the control
device. Part of the influence applied before the control device is the
decision to use the control device in the first place. Using the power
plant boiler as an example, you have control of the aspect upstream from the
actual combustion process (e.g. selection of low/high sulfur fuel, training
of operators for maximum efficiency, maintaining boiler cleanliness,
controlling BTU content, etc.) and downstream (e.g. precipitator/scrubber
operation, ash landfill operation, emissions monitoring effectiveness).
Obviously, there's a lot more to it than that, but those are a few examples.
Processes for evaluation of the ability to control environmental aspects
normally include looking both upstream and downstream.
Rick Gehrke
Compliance Manager
Synair Corporation
www.synair.com
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