iso14000-digest Tuesday, August 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 054
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 14:00:39 -0400
From: Susan Graff
Subject: lead auditor training
As an EARA registered auditor, i recommend the lead auditor course offered
thru StataMatrix- I took it a few years ago and thought it was excellent.
Their number is 1 800 472-6477. They're in NJ but offer it throughout the
country at different times.
Have you taken internal auditor training? My Company offers a course at
Southface Institute in Atlanta - next date is in September 99.
Susan Graff
President
Environmental Resource Services, Inc
Atlanta, GA 30324
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:41:33 +0500
From: Naeem Ismat
Subject: EMS in Spinning Mills
Dear listers,
Any of you have any experience in ISO 14001 implementation in Spinning Mills?
I am very interested in this topic and I need information about some monitoring parameters/significant impacts etc.
If any of you could help me please respond directly to me in order not to disturb other listers not interested in this topic.
Thank you in anticipation,
Naeem Ismat
mail: naeem.ismat@servis.com.pk
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Date: 7 Jul 1999 06:19:20 -0000
From: rita
Subject: From: rita
Dear friends, =
This is B=E1nfi Rita from AIESEC-Hungary. =
Hereby I present you an opportunity to become a member in a global networ=
k - called Club Planet - of future =
business leaders
who are committed to the concept of SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. =
A 1-year-long learning process is provided for the Clubmembers between Au=
gust 1999 and August 2000. =
The network is called Club PLANET and will be established in August 1999 =
in Hungary. The members of Club =
PLANET will
be students/recent graduates from all over the 84 countries where AIESEC =
operates. =
The Club is established with the support of different international organ=
isations, and the members will use the =
network they have
in their everyday business life after August 2000. The corporate sector i=
s already interested in hiring the future =
Clubmembers.
We prepared this learning process for 172 Clubmembers, out of this 120 ha=
s been already selected. =
The initiative to launch Club Planet started from Hungary, in March 1998.=
Each Clubmember is a representative =
his/her own
country in the Club. The learning process, the Clubmembers will go throug=
h, is the following: =
1. Preparation Conference: 5th-25th August 1999, Hungary =
2. Research in your home country: September 1999 - February 2000 (6 month=
s), during this time one Hungarian =
Clubmember
- - your pair for the year - is going to your country for a traineeship. =
3. Traineeship in Hungary: March 2000 - August 2000 (6 months) You and yo=
ur pair are working in Hungary at =
different
companies, and in the meantime you finish the research. =
4. Evaluation Conference and launching the activities of the Club: August=
2000 =
This mail is an invitation to you to become a Clubmember. What you should=
have: *committement towards a =
sustainable future
and social responsibility *very good English knowlegde *business academic=
background *attending the the =
Preparation
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ruary 2000 in your home country, =
between
March - August 2000 in Hungary for a traineeship *willingness to belong t=
o a global network and to commit yourself =
to the
principles of sustainable development =
Due to the limited number of the possible Clubmembers (172) we accept app=
lications according to the number of =
the received
application forms. =
If sustainable development is an important issue to you, however, you can=
not apply for being a Clubmember, =
please, forward
this message to those who could be part of this global initiative. =
Application forms can be obtained from me. =
Yours, =
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PLANET Project Global Network of Young Business Leaders for Sustainable D=
evelopment e-mail: =
margitt@freemail.c3.hu =
Exclusive partner: MATAV - The Hungarian Telecommunications Company Partn=
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Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 13:42:50 +0200
From: "Thierry Larrivée"
Subject: White paper...
Dear listers,
I'm trying to find the so-called "white paper" the TC207 is currently
preparing on the public interest worries about the procedures used to
set international standard and the use of ISO outside the business
settings. This "white paper" is mentionned in the last issue of the BATE
ISO14000 Update.
Anyone have any info or documentation about that?
Thierry Larrivée
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Étudiant à la maîtrise en Gestion et politiques environnementales
(M.Sc. Candidate in Environmental Management and Policy),
Internationella Institutet för Industriell Miljöekonomi
vid Lunds Universitet
tel: +46 46 222 0203
efax: (603) 258-8554
mailto:iim98thl@student3.lu.se
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:34:24 MYT
From: "Nik Zafri Abdul Majid"
Subject: Chatroom
Dear Members
I have now created my very own chatroom to discuss about Environment, Health
and Safety, Quality and all sorts of Modern Management Systems. Everyone is
invited of course....
Instructions :-
go to http://www.nikzafri.tsx.org
scroll down and you will come across a link entitled "MEMBERS ONLY" and go
to link MEMBERS..CLICK HERE. A password will be required...I have allocated
a temporary password which is QHSEM (in capital letters) Once you have
entered the chatroom, you may need to change you nick from Anonymous to your
own nick and you can start chatting..
You can come anytime...of course (not necessarily waiting for me to come in)
Have fun...
Regards.
Nik Zafri
amiqm,miqauk,irca/eara,mmim,mmcni
Honorable Fellow of PendidikNet Malaysia
Regd. QHSE Management Systems Assessor
Consultant, Columnist, QHSE Activist
No. 3, Jalan Intan 2/8
Taman Intan
Kluang 86000
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:15:59 -0300
From: "Hickman, Charles"
Subject: Software
I work for a medium sized electricity company with 2500 employees, and we
are in the process of implementing 14001 in 8 sections / facilities of the
company. I am looking for information on software that other companies have
used to help both implement and manage the maintenance of the EMS system -
have any list members used commercial software (names / contacts, did it
help, what were strengths / weaknesses), developed their own, or considered
this issue
All comments appreciated.
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Charles Hickman
NB Power
Tel: 506 458 6555
FAX: 506 458 4000
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 18:49:24 -0400
From: Brian Montgomery
Subject: Env. Aspects in the Metal Service Industry
Fellow posters,
I am helping a metal distribution and processing company with their
EMS. The company has Metal Service Centers throughout North America. The
current project has me helping these sites out with their environmental
aspects.
I was wondering if anyone had examples of Metal Service Centers that
have undergone similar actions to serve as case studies for the project.
Sincerely,
Brian Montgomery
Environmental Officer
bmontgomery@samuel.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:51:28 +0200
From: "Francis E. Farrugia"
Subject: EMAS Update
Can anyone provide information of the recent changes to EMAS
FE. Farrugia
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:51:28 +0200
From: "Francis E. Farrugia"
Subject: EMAS Update
Can anyone provide information of the recent changes to EMAS
FE. Farrugia
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:51:28 +0200
From: "Francis E. Farrugia"
Subject: EMAS Update
Can anyone provide information of the recent changes to EMAS
FE. Farrugia
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:43:59 -0700
From: Burton Hamner
Subject: GL: Corporate Greenhouse: Cool Companies
sorry for cross postings. this is a good read.
Burton
>THE NATION
>July 26, 1999
>Corporate Greenhouse
>by MARK HERTSGAARD
>
> This book is aimed at business executives, but
> political reporters may have to read it too,
> now that Republican front-runner George W.
> Bush has decided that global warming is real
> after all. After years of endorsing the oil
> industry's view that mankind's greenhouse-gas
> emissions have no effect on the world's
> climate, the Texas governor and former oil
> executive told a press conference on May 13,
> "I believe there is global warming."
>
>Bush's statement amounts to an about-face on Al Gore's signature
>issue, and it shows that his advisers recognize how much the
>environmental vote matters in presidential politics. When a
>majority of even Republican voters tell pollsters they oppose
>their party's attempts to gut environmental laws, the
>environment has clearly become a Mom-and-apple-pie issue. A
>presidential candidate simply cannot be credible unless he or
>she leaves behind the Flat Earth Society nonsense about global
>warming being a mere theory. At a time when almost all climate
>scientists of stature agree that global warming has already
>begun and even corporate giants like British Petroleum and Royal
>Dutch/Shell have stopped denying the truth, a candidate cannot
>continue asserting that "the science is still out" on global
>warming, as Bush did just a few weeks before his mid-May press
>conference, without sounding anti-environmental.
>
>But a gloom-and-doom environmentalism isn't the answer either.
>The fact is, the environment can be a winner for any candidate
>with the wit to link it to the issue that decides most
>presidential elections, the economy. Americans tell pollsters
>they want environmental protection even if it means less
>economic growth, but the happy truth is that they needn't choose
>between the two. As companies, workers and governments around
>the world are proving every day, restoring our planet's ailing
>ecosystems could become the biggest economic enterprise of the
>twenty-first century, a bountiful source of jobs, profits and
>competitiveness.
>
>Global warming is a perfect example of the opportunities
>available. Corporate propaganda has been remarkably successful
>over the past decade in convincing people, first, that global
>warming is merely a distant possibility rather than an
>observable fact and, second, that any attempt to stop it would
>sow economic disaster. The first claim is now widely recognized
>as bogus, and the second--which has done so much to delay
>progress on meeting the emissions targets the world's nations
>agreed to in Kyoto in 1997--may soon be as well, especially if
>books like this one reach a wide enough audience.
>
>In Cool Companies, Joseph Romm documents in convincing detail
>how such big-name firms as Toyota, Royal Dutch/ Shell, Du Pont,
>3M, Xerox and Compaq are fattening their bottom lines while
>dramatically reducing the amount of carbon dioxide their
>factories and office buildings are unleashing into the
>atmosphere. The corporations are not motivated by altruism; they
>simply recognize that environmentally friendly innovations can
>make money for their stockholders. Of course, capitalists with
>a conscience have long contended that they could do good while
>doing well. Cool Companies, in effect, shows how to apply that
>self-serving maxim to the urgent task of reducing greenhouse-gas
>emissions.
>
>The heroes of this book are the "cool" companies of its title,
>defined as any firm that "cuts its [greenhouse gas] emissions
>by 50 percent or more while reducing its energy bill and
>increasing productivity." The author served as an Assistant
>Secretary of Energy during the Clinton Administration, directing
>the DOE's Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, and
>in that capacity he was able to study and work closely with many
>of the companies profiled in this book (which may explain why
>he passes so lightly over certain aspects of global warming
>policy, including the potential for an increase in US automobile
>fuel efficiency--the single most powerful step against global
>warming the federal government could take). In any case, Romm's
>hands-on experience with innovative firms enables him to provide
>the specific cost and investment data craved by the business
>executives who are his target audience, while also anticipating
>their skepticism toward his recommendations. Some caution about
>the accuracy of the data is warranted, since much of it was
>self-reported by the firms profiled. But as success story
>follows success story in Cool Companies, the accumulation of
>evidence should be enough to persuade all but the most
>determined polluter to change his ways, and for his own
>financial benefit.
>
>Cool Companies begins with the story of Aaron Feuerstein, the
>Massachusetts business executive who attracted national media
>attention when his Malden Mills textile factory burned down in
>1995. Feuerstein famously refused to seize on the blaze as an
>excuse to relocate to a low-wage zone overseas; even more
>remarkable, he also continued to pay all 3,000 of his workers
>while rebuilding the plant. Impressed by Feuerstein's decency,
>Romm asked his DOE colleagues to see how they might assist the
>company. Two years after the fire, Romm was pleased to attend
>the groundbreaking ceremony for the rebuilt Malden Mills
>factory, complete with a new, super-efficient natural-gas
>turbine that would provide the plant with both electricity and
>steam, a process known as co-generation. When Romm asked
>Feuerstein why he had focused on making environmental
>improvements at the very time he was trying to save his company
>from bankruptcy, the executive replied, "Over the long-term, it
>is more profitable to do the right thing for the environment
>than to pollute it."
>
>That philosophy is the central message of Cool Companies, and
>for most of the firms the book describes, the extra profits come
>from improving energy efficiency. The point of energy efficiency
>is not to do without, but to do more with less. Toyota Auto Body
>of California, for example, a facility in Long Beach that
>manufactures and paints the rear deck of Toyota pickup trucks,
>was consuming 2.5 million kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity
>in 1991. By 1996 the plant had doubled its production volume
>while cutting its electricity consumption by one-third, to 1.7
>million kWh, thanks to a comprehensive set of efficiency
>improvements, including better motors, lighting and air
>compressors. Toyota implemented these changes to improve product
>quality, not the environment, but Romm maintains that such
>"lean" initiatives tend to have green consequences: Reducing
>energy inefficiency reduces waste of all kinds, from defectively
>painted trucks to unnecessarily high electricity bills.
>Greenhouse-gas emissions and other forms of pollution, Romm
>suggests, are but physical manifestations of inefficient
>production processes and should be as abhorrent to corporate
>managers as they are to Greenpeace militants.
>
>Of course, the single biggest cost facing most corporations is
>the wages, salaries and other expenses associated with
>maintaining a competent, productive work force. But here too,
>writes Romm, it pays to do the right thing environmentally.
>Designing buildings so that sunshine rather than electric light
>provides most of the illumination obviously reduces energy use,
>but its real value lies in how much labor productivity
>increases. "In a typical building, energy costs average
>$1.50-$2.50 per square foot, while salaries exceed $200 per
>square foot," writes Romm. "That's why productivity savings
>dwarf energy savings."
>
>Consider the case of VeriFone, a Hewlett-Packard subsidiary that
>manufactures credit-card-verification machines. When VeriFone
>renovated a 76,000-square-foot facility in Costa Mesa,
>California, it chose a natural-light design that helped reduce
>energy consumption 60 percent. But the natural light made the
>plant's workers feel so much better--no more end-of-the-day
>headaches and drowsiness--that productivity also climbed 5
>percent and the absentee rate dropped an astonishing 45 percent.
>As a result, an investment that the company expected to pay for
>itself in seven years was recouped in less than twelve months.
>
>Energy efficiency may not sound like much of a rallying cry for
>the environmental revolution, but there is no denying that it
>packs an impressive financial punch. On the basis of the more
>than fifty real-world examples assembled in Cool Companies, Romm
>contends that most individual firms can cut their greenhouse-gas
>emissions in half while enjoying "a return on investment that
>can exceed 50 percent and in many cases 100 percent."
>
>Romm argues that inadequate information is the main reason that
>relatively few US companies have so far embraced a "cool"
>strategy; most corporate managers are simply unaware of how much
>money they could be saving. But if "any significant fraction of
>U.S. companies became cool," he suggests, the United States
>"would be able to meet the Kyoto [emissions] targets while
>lowering the nation's annual energy bill by tens of billions of
>dollars and accelerating economic growth through productivity
>gains."
>
>Sounds pretty good, doesn't it? But if the great value of Romm's
>book lies in its can-do message, its weakness lies in his
>reluctance to acknowledge the limits of the strategy he
>propounds. Promising to meet the Kyoto targets is all very well,
>but it is woefully inadequate to the real challenge facing us.
>The Kyoto treaty calls for industrialized nations to reduce
>their greenhouse-gas emissions by 2012 by approximately 6
>percent compared with 1990 levels; but the Intergovernmental
>Panel on Climate Change of the UN has concluded that emissions
>must decline by 50 to 70 percent if humanity is to avoid the
>most severe effects of climate change, including a one-meter
>rise in global sea levels by 2100, which would leave large parts
>of New York, Amsterdam, Bombay and Shanghai underwater.
>
>Like it or not, there is more to fighting global warming than
>increasing corporate efficiency; what a given corporation
>produces in the first place matters profoundly. Romm heaps page
>after page of praise on Toyota and Royal Dutch/Shell for
>dramatically reducing the amount of greenhouse gases released
>from their factories and office buildings, but he says barely
>a word about the incomparably larger amount of greenhouse gases
>released when the cars Toyota so efficiently produces are filled
>with Shell's gasoline and driven back and forth across the
>American landscape.
>
>Motor vehicles currently account for nearly 40 percent of
>America's greenhouse-gas emissions. As long as those vehicles
>continue to be powered by gasoline and driven increasing numbers
>of passenger miles every year, it matters little how
>energy-efficient the factories that manufacture them are. Yes,
>it is welcome news that Shell has promised to invest $500
>million in renewable energy over the next five years and that
>it has left the Global Climate Coalition, an industry front
>group that has long delayed progress by claiming that global
>warming is little more than environmental propaganda. It's also
>nice to know that Ford is working with DaimlerChrysler to
>produce a fuel-cell-powered car whose only exhaust will be
>climate-friendly water vapor. But the bulk of Shell's immensely
>profitable global operations remain dedicated to maximizing the
>production and eventual combustion of fossil fuels, just as Ford
>continues to make most of its profits by selling egregiously
>fuel-inefficient sport utility vehicles.
>
>Until we as a society break decisively from our addiction to
>fossil fuels and the motor vehicles that consume them in such
>vast quantities, our chances of avoiding severe climate change
>are slim. To be sure, a cool-companies strategy of increasing
>individual firms' energy and resource efficiency is a step
>forward. Such a strategy can dissolve current corporate
>prejudices by showing that environmental investments can indeed
>be profitable; it can also help buy time necessary to navigate
>the tricky transition to a truly environmentally sustainable
>society. But if companies like Toyota and Royal Dutch/Shell are
>left in charge of that transition, it's hard to imagine that
>we'll make the shift in time.
>
>
>Mark Hertsgaard, a longtime contributor to The Nation, is the
>author of four books, including, most recently, Earth Odyssey:
>Around the World in Search of Our Environmental Future
>(Broadway).
>
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:51:28 +0200
From: "Francis E. Farrugia"
Subject: EMAS Update
Can anyone provide information of the recent changes to EMAS
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:51:35 PDT
From: "Koralia Timotheou"
Subject: ISO14001 in Classification Societies
Dear all,
We are trying to implement ISO 14001 in a small Classification Society
(classification of vessels). I was wondering how one can address the
environmental impacts of the provision of classification services and for
surveys. Any thoughts?
Koralia Timotheou
ktimotheou@hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:51:35 PDT
From: "Koralia Timotheou"
Subject: ISO14001 in Classification Societies
Dear all,
We are trying to implement ISO 14001 in a small Classification Society
(classification of vessels). I was wondering how one can address the
environmental impacts of the provision of classification services and for
surveys. Any thoughts?
Koralia Timotheou
ktimotheou@hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:51:35 PDT
From: "Koralia Timotheou"
Subject: ISO14001 in Classification Societies
Dear all,
We are trying to implement ISO 14001 in a small Classification Society
(classification of vessels). I was wondering how one can address the
environmental impacts of the provision of classification services and for
surveys. Any thoughts?
Koralia Timotheou
ktimotheou@hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:48:42 -0700
From: Burton Hamner
Subject: World Bank evaluation of environmental impact (fwd)
FYI. While this is mostly of interest to those who are pretty
knowledgeable about World Bank programs and operations, the wide ranging
discussion (you can read it on their website) raises lots of issues about
the effectiveness of sustainability interventions that are relevant to a
much broader audience. Too bad we don't all have the money the World Bank
does to try things out.
>>
>> A MESSAGE FROM THE WORLD BANK TO INTERACTION MEMBER AGENCIES
>
>> The World Bank's Operations Evaluation Department (OED) invites you to
>> join an electronic discussion on the evaluation of the World Bank
>> Group's performance in promoting environmental sustainability in
>> development. The discussion begins on July 6, 1999 and will last for a
>> period of four to six weeks. The objective is:
>
>> * to bring together representatives from NGOs, private sector,
>> international organizations and other stakeholders to discuss their
>> views on the Bank's performance in promoting environmental
>> sustainability in development;
>
>> * for the OED to obtain useful knowledge (relevant information and
>> evidence) for its evaluation; and
>
>> * to prepare the ground for the dissemination and assimilation of the
>> evaluation's findings by the Bank and other interested stakeholders.
>
>> In the late 1980s, following upon growing worldwide concerns about the
>> compatibility of economic development with environmental
>> sustainability, the World Bank greatly strengthened its efforts to
>> integrate environmental concerns into the mainstream of developmental
>> policymaking. This led to introduction of environmental concerns into
>> the development agenda; the design and implementation of a great
>> number and variety of environmental products, including projects,
>> policy guidance, research and training; the formulation of widely
>> accepted guidelines on environmental matters; and the broadening of
>> the Bank's reach through its leadership role in the global
>> environmental debate and new partnerships with international and local
>> organizations. However, considering the magnitude of environmental
>> issues, the impact of the World Bank Group's programs on broad
>> environmental trends in the developing world has been limited, and the
>> achievements of various programs have been mixed. Serious issues are
>> still being raised about the Bank Group's performance in living up to
>> its commitment to environmental sustainability.
>
>> Information on this online discussion, including background materials,
>> can be found in the Development Forum discussion space on the World
>> Bank's web site
>
>
>> The conference will take the form of a moderated email discussion
>> list, archived onto the Development Forum website. A team of
>> moderators will review all messages for relevance before posting them
>> to the list. The moderators will also prepare regular summaries of
>> the discussion for posting both to the list and to the Forum site.
>
>> We plan to prepare a synthesis report of the discussions based on the
>> responses. This report will form the basis for future work including
>> workshops, short notes, and commissioned papers. The conference is
>> open to the public. However, the moderators will enforce both the
>> general rules of decorum of the Development Forum and the specific
>> rule that contributions to this conference should be directly
>> addressed to the issues under discussion. If you wish to participate,
>> please send an email to:
>
> majordomo@jazz.worldbank.org
>
>
>> Leave the subject line blank.
>
>> In the body of the message, type the following: subscribe E-SUST You
>> will receive a welcome message confirming your subscription.
>
>> For further information, or if you have questions, please contact:
>> Moderator3@worldbank.org
>
>
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4343 4th Avenue NW, Seattle Washington USA 91807
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:34:17 MYT
From: "Nik Zafri Abdul Majid"
Subject: Seeking Information
Dear Members
I am looking for information on a Germany-Based Waste Treatment Company
known as Trenikken GmBh...should any of the members could assist me on
this....please e-mail me....
Thank you
Nik Zafri Abdul Majid
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:10:39 +0000
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
beneficial).
I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing them?
-or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
deficiencies?
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:56:23 -0500
From: "David L. Turner"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
We have considered increasing the volume of recyled
materials and using that as a target. I don't see why
increasing the good would be unacceptable. One could argue
that, for instance, recycling is really only a cleanup of a
bad thing, and therefore is not really "positive" but at
some point the discussion turns into one of semantics.
This reminds me of many discussions we have hear about how
autidors will view our activities and procedures. I think
that we need to keep in mind that they are auditing us, but
at the same time, we are still customers of a service.
Auditors are interpreters of rules, but the subjective
nature of the interpretation process allows input from the
auditee as well as the auditor.
I hope this makes sense. It's been a long week already ; )
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sitting quietly, doing nothing.
The grass grows by itself.
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:10:39 +0000
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
beneficial).
I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing them?
-or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
deficiencies?
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:56:23 -0500
From: "David L. Turner"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
We have considered increasing the volume of recyled
materials and using that as a target. I don't see why
increasing the good would be unacceptable. One could argue
that, for instance, recycling is really only a cleanup of a
bad thing, and therefore is not really "positive" but at
some point the discussion turns into one of semantics.
This reminds me of many discussions we have hear about how
autidors will view our activities and procedures. I think
that we need to keep in mind that they are auditing us, but
at the same time, we are still customers of a service.
Auditors are interpreters of rules, but the subjective
nature of the interpretation process allows input from the
auditee as well as the auditor.
I hope this makes sense. It's been a long week already ; )
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sitting quietly, doing nothing.
The grass grows by itself.
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:00:14 -0400
From: Robert Clifford
Subject: Beneficial significant impactsre:
Mr. Chambers wrote:
> Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
> that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
> example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
> beneficial).
I've seen, as a significant aspect, a reduction in air/water emissions.
The impact was a general improvement to the environment occuring as a
result of lower emissions. The aspect was significant, however, because
the company assigned significance to most "regulated" aspects. The
objective then became an additional percentage reduction (say 10% more over
a yearlong period). Essentially, they were improving on a good thing.
> I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
As an auditor for a 3rd party registrar, I think that we'd view it as
evidence of a very comprehensive aspect / significance analysis procedure,
since you're right in assuming that most companies focus only on a few,
negative impacts.
> Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing
them?
> -or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
> deficiencies?
Yes to both. The objective of an EMS is *control* over environmental
aspects. "Beneficial" aspects still require control to maintain the
benefit over time. Deficiencies also require control, since they could
lead to regulatory non-compliance, reverse pollution prevention efforts,
and/or prevent continual improvement of environmental performance. The
effort needed to control these aspects is assigned based on significance.
And significance is often quantified on the basis of the *degree* of
impact, whether that occurs in a "good" or "bad" direction.
Robert Clifford, Jr.
ISO Environmental Consultancy, Inc.
1103 Glenwood Blvd
Schenectady NY 12308-2503
Phone/Fax - 518-393-3392
clifford@quality.org
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:40:56 -0500
From: "Smith, Brent"
Subject: Free ISO 14001 Services
I am looking for opportunities to provide ISO 14001 Gap Analyses or to
assist in ISO 14001 internal auditing for facilities or ISO 14001 external
auditing for a Registrar, with the cost paid by my employer. I am working to
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I have had ISO 14001 Lead Auditor, ISO 14001 Implementation, ISO 14001
Overview, and ISO 9001 Implementation training courses. While "on loan" to a
Registrar from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), I was involved in four
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have about 25 years of environmental compliance experience.
I can be reached via e-mail (bsmith1311@aol.com
) or at (504) 734-4970 (office).
Brent W. Smith, REM
Quality Assurance Specialist
Quality Assurance Division
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 23:03:24 -0400
From: Diana Baldi
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
A few examples of positive aspects that turned into objectives:
Preserving habitat near a facility (native plants, animals, wildlife
preserve)--this would be opposed to having the site mainly concrete or
asphalt.
Golf course on site (controversial since upkeep could be chemical and water
intensive)
Pond that employees fish
visual appearance of facility--building, natural lighting,
landscaping--could be important if company is expanding, remodeling, or
building another facility
wellness programs for employees (more for health & safety, but could be in
scope for environmental if the company desires)
earth day "type" awareness programs
the use of recyled or recovered metal in foundry instead of freshly mined
ore
Do these seem like positives to you?
Diana Baldi
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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:10:39 +0000
From: Michael_J._Chambers@bausch.com (Michael J. Chambers)
Subject: Beneficial significant impacts.
Has anybody identified "postive" or "beneficial" significant aspects
that translated into objectives/targets? If so, can you share your
example(s)? (the standard tells us to identify adverse and
beneficial).
I'm wondering how 3rd party registrars have viewed this issue.
Do we codify the good things we're doing to ensure we keep doing them?
-or- would significant aspects be better focused on improving
deficiencies?
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:56:23 -0500
From: "David L. Turner"
Subject: Re: Beneficial significant impacts.
We have considered increasing the volume of recyled
materials and using that as a target. I don't see why
increasing the good would be unacceptable. One could argue
that, for instance, recycling is really only a cleanup of a
bad thing, and therefore is not really "positive" but at
some point the discussion turns into one of semantics.
This reminds me of many discussions we have hear about how
autidors will view our activities and procedures. I think
that we need to keep in mind that they are auditing us, but
at the same time, we are still customers of a service.
Auditors are interpreters of rules, but the subjective
nature of the interpretation process allows input from the
auditee as well as the auditor.
I hope this makes sense. It's been a long week already ; )
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Sitting quietly, doing nothing.
The grass grows by itself.
Regards,
David Turner
YSI Safety & Environmental Coordinator
1725 Brannum Lane
Yellow Springs, Ohio 45387
Email: DTurner@YSI.com
Phone 1-937-767-1685 ext. 270
Facmetaphor: 1-937-767-9353
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